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Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby aussieDave » 20 Jan 2020, 13:48

Hi guys,

I'm going to have a look at a second hand AI on Wednesday night, it's an older model with the wet seat.

Do you guys have any tips on what I should look for?

Thanks,

Dave
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby 4liters » 20 Jan 2020, 13:57

Checking out whatever caused Shane’s to start sinking that time would be a good start. Rudder cable holes or something
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby aussieDave » 20 Jan 2020, 14:01

4liters wrote:Checking out whatever caused Shane’s to start sinking that time would be a good start. Rudder cable holes or something


Yes and Taz's rear hatch that wasn't properly closed IIRC.
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby Fish Grylls » 20 Jan 2020, 14:05

What year Dave
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby Fish Grylls » 20 Jan 2020, 14:12

My one is 2011. I have been on the newer ones (mavs) and they have made substantial improvements in the hull shape, amas and daggerboard release in the newer ones. My one is an extremely wet ride and really likes to bury one of the amas which is a bit scary. If I had my time again I would put up the extra coin and get a newer one.
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby aussieDave » 20 Jan 2020, 14:44

Hi Taz,

Fish Grylls wrote:My one is 2011. I have been on the newer ones (mavs) and they have made substantial improvements in the hull shape, amas and daggerboard release in the newer ones. My one is an extremely wet ride and really likes to bury one of the amas which is a bit scary. If I had my time again I would put up the extra coin and get a newer one.


The guy thinks it's a 2009, it is only $2K with a registered trailer so I can't expect too much.

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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby shane » 20 Jan 2020, 16:15

With 2009, check whether it has the ammas that clip straight in or the pins. I suspect the latter, there were a few issues on earlier models that took until about 2012 to iron out. There is a list of changes by year of the Hobiecat forums. Also be very careful with cracks around the mirage drive in older models. The price sounds good. I've seen cheaper but with some major issues (eg Nello's).

The initial leak with mine was due to the rubber grommets being missing in the rear and overloading it with a live well. There are improvements that can be made including vaseline at the cable openings that helps. Lightly loaded and the tail shouldn't go underwater but it doesn't take much load to get it down. (Remember I tend to take the kitchen sink out with me).

I agree with Taz's comments that the newer model is far superior. The old model can still do a reasonable job but sailing it heavy laden in rough weather will see you regularly pumping out the hull.. The nose tends to submarine a lot in rough weather and will get water in through the front hatch. If you keep it lightly loaded and install a skipper seat it can be a moderately dry ride in modest conditions. The older AI's are still quite capable and a lot of fun and I did manage to do a lot of sailing on it and pull in some very good fish. I'd still prefer and older AI over most other yaks. It's just that the newer model is that much better again.

This reminds me, I'd better get around to selling my old AI as it's been sitting covered up from a while. :roll:
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby erik the viking » 20 Jan 2020, 19:00

Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Unread postby shane » 20 Jan 2020, 15:15
With 2009, check whether it has the ammas theat clip straight in or the pins. I suspect the latter, there were a few issues on earlier models that took until about 2012 to iron out. There is a list of changes by year of the Hobiecat forums. Also be very careful with cracks around the mirage drive in older models. The price sounds good. I've seen cheaper but with some major issues (eg Nello's).

The initial leak with mine was due to the rubber grommets being missing in the rear and overloading it with a live well. There are improvements that can be made including vaseline at the cable openings that helps. Lightly loaded and the tail shouldn't go underwater but it doesn't take much load to get it down. (Remember I tend to take the kitchen sink out with me).

I agree with Taz's comments that the newer model is far superior. The old model can still do a reasonable job but sailing it heavy laden in rough weather will see you regularly pumping out the hull.. The nose tends to submarine a lot in rough weather and will get water in through the front hatch. If you keep it lightly loaded and install a skipper seat it can be a moderately dry ride in modest conditions. The older AI's are still quite capable and a lot of fun and I did manage to do a lot of sailing on it and pull in some very good fish. I'd still prefer and older AI over most other yaks. It's just that the newer model is that much better again.


Now that is some very useful information all based on many years experience and useful observations, all for free.
I don't own an AI, and never will. (unfortuntely.......... as they look like they would be a real blast!) but all that info is priceless.
Thanks Shane for your very insightful and prompt responses to members enquiries. :thumbsup:
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby shane » 21 Jan 2020, 08:27

Here's a link to the list of all AI/TI changes over the years:

https://www.hobie.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=46735
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Re: Tips wanted for buying a second hand Hobie AI

Postby aussieDave » 21 Jan 2020, 09:46

Thanks Shane,

I appreciate your advice, I'll check out that link through the day today.

My checklist so far is:

- Ammas: clip straight in or pins (check pin material)
- Cracks around mirage drive, check around mast support too
- Check sail and rigging in good condition (I imagine a new sail wouldn't be cheap)

Trailer
- Rego
- lights
- rust

I think I might need to expand this by tomorrow night but it's a start

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