Wader safety test
- Mordy
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Wader safety test
Not sure If you have seen this before but this guy trys to drown himself by:
Neoprene waders
with / without belt
Nylon Waders
with without belt
and a PDF or maybe that should be a PFD
I don't think anybody has drowned by not using adode acrobat
Tony
Re: Wader safety test
Didnt watch the video, Dead people freak me out
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Re: Wader safety test
I, actually watched it all. Very enlightening. A lot depends on the person.
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Re: Wader safety test
I second that bozzie Cheers Jim
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Re: Wader safety test
thanks for sharing that video mordy, some good safety tips there
good comments guys, u got my vote as well
cherrs gummyshark norm
good comments guys, u got my vote as well
cherrs gummyshark norm
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Re: Wader safety test
Good post - informative video.....
given that we all (i assume all) wear pfds then the wader issue shouldnt be huge but i'd still stay away from the placcy ones and go neoprene if I was going to wear any - which I'm not cos i know how hard it can be to get back on a yak from the water.....
gotta keep posting stuff like this up in the hope that it eventually rubs off
given that we all (i assume all) wear pfds then the wader issue shouldnt be huge but i'd still stay away from the placcy ones and go neoprene if I was going to wear any - which I'm not cos i know how hard it can be to get back on a yak from the water.....
gotta keep posting stuff like this up in the hope that it eventually rubs off
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Re: Wader safety test
Wow, don't know how I missed this one!!!
While I disagree with your choice of heading, (There should be no mention of the word "safety" unless it's with the words "Lack of".) good find Mordy
MY PET HATE !!!!
Waders are just that "WADERS" and should not be used for anything else, least of all kayaking.
As far as I am concerned and have personally experienced from similar circumstances;
No waders won't pull you down!!
Yes you can swim in them!!!
Yes they will keep your feet and arse warm and dry if you don't fall in/capsize!!!
BUT !!!!
If and it is an IF I admit, but people are still dumb enough to do it !! If you do not wear a PFD and enter the water head first in plastic waders, the air inside will push to your boots and hold you up side down cause a drowning unless your are trained to counter act it. Neoprene waders may also do it, but are less likely due to the buoyancy of the neoprene, just depends how high they come up your chest. A shorter neoprene legging wader will definitely turn you up. (Note he walked in which pushes the air out as he walks in). And while belts slow water ingress, they also slow air and waters exit .
They can and will no matter if you are wearing a belt/PFD (if in the water long enough) fill with water and once full of water are next to impossible to drain.
Once full of water, double your weight to lift from the water.
Once/if you do get out of the water, water draining from your clothes cannot drain away and stays inside the wader, this water then sucks important body heat away from the skins surface and muscle's which causes cramping and hypothermia and minimizes freedom of movement.
Often the argument is, "I will remove the wader or cut the wader to drain it" The whole idea of protective clothes is to wear the clothes for protection and not spend precious time removing them or even worse risk more damage by stabbing/cutting yourself.
Also note; it is a calm water test, ask yourself; Would he have coped the same with waders full of water in poor conditions, once the legs are rolled down any/if any air flotation was in them is gone and it is even harder to remove the foot section and impossible to swim. While wrestling the waders off, how far away has your kayak been blown.
Waders have no place on a Kayak
While I disagree with your choice of heading, (There should be no mention of the word "safety" unless it's with the words "Lack of".) good find Mordy
MY PET HATE !!!!
Waders are just that "WADERS" and should not be used for anything else, least of all kayaking.
As far as I am concerned and have personally experienced from similar circumstances;
No waders won't pull you down!!
Yes you can swim in them!!!
Yes they will keep your feet and arse warm and dry if you don't fall in/capsize!!!
BUT !!!!
If and it is an IF I admit, but people are still dumb enough to do it !! If you do not wear a PFD and enter the water head first in plastic waders, the air inside will push to your boots and hold you up side down cause a drowning unless your are trained to counter act it. Neoprene waders may also do it, but are less likely due to the buoyancy of the neoprene, just depends how high they come up your chest. A shorter neoprene legging wader will definitely turn you up. (Note he walked in which pushes the air out as he walks in). And while belts slow water ingress, they also slow air and waters exit .
They can and will no matter if you are wearing a belt/PFD (if in the water long enough) fill with water and once full of water are next to impossible to drain.
Once full of water, double your weight to lift from the water.
Once/if you do get out of the water, water draining from your clothes cannot drain away and stays inside the wader, this water then sucks important body heat away from the skins surface and muscle's which causes cramping and hypothermia and minimizes freedom of movement.
Often the argument is, "I will remove the wader or cut the wader to drain it" The whole idea of protective clothes is to wear the clothes for protection and not spend precious time removing them or even worse risk more damage by stabbing/cutting yourself.
Also note; it is a calm water test, ask yourself; Would he have coped the same with waders full of water in poor conditions, once the legs are rolled down any/if any air flotation was in them is gone and it is even harder to remove the foot section and impossible to swim. While wrestling the waders off, how far away has your kayak been blown.
Waders have no place on a Kayak
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Re: Wader safety test
ELM wrote:SNIP
fully agree here.
wetsuit YES, waders NO
anything that can TRAP water on your person should be a big no no
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Re: Wader safety test
brettrobo wrote:ELM wrote:SNIP
fully agree here.
wetsuit YES, waders NO
anything that can TRAP water on your person should be a big no no
My son-in-law was fly fishing from the bank at Eildon last week. He was wearing the legging waders. He slipped off a rock and went into water over the top of his waders, they filled with water and he fell over backwards. He said that he couldn't save himself and was lucky his fishing buddy pulled him out. He says he definitely could have drowned. The waders went in the bin.
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Re: Wader safety test
I only let the Minister for War & Finance wear waders on my Kayak
Until I get the spare coin to get some shark-skins, my poor man setup for keeping my arse and most my legs dry is simply a pair of elasticated (waist) thick PVC pants which are quite loose fitting and certainly not closed or elasticated at the ankle. In cooler weather some neoprene booties stop the toes from falling off and my regulation thermals underneath keep the pins warm enough. All with a proppa PFD of course.
J
Until I get the spare coin to get some shark-skins, my poor man setup for keeping my arse and most my legs dry is simply a pair of elasticated (waist) thick PVC pants which are quite loose fitting and certainly not closed or elasticated at the ankle. In cooler weather some neoprene booties stop the toes from falling off and my regulation thermals underneath keep the pins warm enough. All with a proppa PFD of course.
J
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