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Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 13:22
by Steve_R
For that distance with a heavy kayak four wheels is going to be hard to beat

1) Commercial product:
https://www.c-tug.com/products/double-up-bar/

2) Two sets of strap on wheels:



3) Make your own (you'd probably have to leave it behind so theft could be an issue)




Alternatively, move to the light side
4) A lightweight kayak with one set of strap-on wheels.

I opted for solution 4.

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 13:58
by laneends
The double up strap on looks the best. Strap ons can be moved closer to the centre to balance the weight. two axles will reduce tipping and scraping the keel keeping it level. Being strap on its not going to cause any twisting strain on scuppers. Wheels close together should make it easier manoeuvre. Fully demountable so best chance of stowage.

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 14:55
by erik the viking
[quote="Steve_R"]For that distance with a heavy kayak four wheels is going to be hard to beat

1) Commercial product:
https://www.c-tug.com/products/double-up-bar/


Well, well. That's exactly what I was talking about.
I haven't seen that before, makes the GT a cinch now. :yahoo:
I was thinking along the lines of the original Hobie cart up rear (or centre for a PA) and the C-Tug type up front.
I think you would have to make sure the strap and buckle are up really tight to try their shenanigns though!
Good stuff there Steve. I also like the holding frame on the second one, although the rods are much too high up for my liking.
Ah, PVC pipe again.........................

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 23:59
by Yako
I don't see why you can't use the mirage drive to lock something in like thi cart/trolley except where the front "U" post is you put a swivel beach wheel :up:

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 00:52
by laneends
Thats not a bad idea as front and back are on same frame so no stress on hull due to any twisting forces especially as you are not using back scuppers. The weight is taken on the frame not on the mirage mounts. Wouldn't need a beach wheel, a regular wheel would be fine for trundling down the road, you can just lift a little and use as normal trolley on soft sand. Would need a swivel that could stand up to marine environment assuming it would be packed up somehow and taken on board.

I am assuming as a vehicle is no being used whatever is used will need to be packed into/onto kayak as there is nowhere to leave anything behind?

Not sure how the mirage shaft is inserted through slot from below? Demountable from block?

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 06:24
by Babylon
Half the distance is on crushed rock walking path smooth no bumps and the other half road so surface isn't a problem
should be able to padlock frame to a pole and if wheels are removable put them in Yak.
Instead of mirage drive could make Vee neck to rest front of yak as distance is small shouldn't affect plastic.
Cheers Babylon :thumbsup:

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 06:59
by Seasherpa
If you don't need to pack it up into the yak Jim its probably best to hit up a local metalworker to make you a frame to do exactly what you want. You could even flog your Hobie trolley to offset the cost? A simple caster type arrangement for the front of the dolly in the picture would be pretty straight forward as it is only bushings not bearings. You can also get a full caster set-up for the balloon wheels pre-made, but they aren't cheap.
I can get you any of the wheels/parts from the Beachwheelz catalogue if required:
https://beachwheelsaustralia.com/compar ... ty-wheels/
https://beachwheelsaustralia.com/compar ... on-wheels/
If you know what you need, gimme a shout and I'll try to look after you on price :thumbsup:

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 08:07
by Yako
Hi Jim, 1.2 Km is a fair hike.
If the area is safe, you could try this option & lock everything up :-)

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 08:29
by Babylon
Yako wrote:Hi Jim, 1.2 Km is a fair hike.
If the area is safe, you could try this option & lock everything up :-)
:thumbsup: I like it, am going to walk it a couple of times just to see how i go.
I know I'm not super fit 8-) but wheelchair bound either this is just a thought
and good to get others involved and see what people come up with.Cheers Babylon :thumbsup:
Ps Thank you Seasherpa for your offer will keep in mind :thumbsup:

Re: Wheels any ideas

Posted: 26 Apr 2017, 09:12
by laneends
Some example using beach wheel on custom trailers of various kinds
beach carts

If you are not hauling across sand you can use regular HD wheels