Help and advise about offshore Yak Fishing needed.
Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 07:49
Hi everyone, I am new to the forum and new to kayak fishing. Actually new to kayaking period.
I have only paddled a canoe for an hour and recently tried a Pedal Kayak (Native Slayer Propel 13)
I need advise on what yak would be best for me to buy.
I would like something that I can use across all; or most of the fishing spectrum / disciplines.
If possible I am planning to fish about 10% offshore for big game ; 60% coastal around Warrnambool less than 2km from land ; 25% inland lakes for trout / redfin (No very skinny waters just lakes and reasonably wide rivers) ; if it is at all possible to cover these 3 different scenarios with the same yak.
My main concern is the offshore part of it; I am not sure if the kayak/s I am considering are considered good for offshore big game by people who have experience.
Recently I tried a Native Slayer propel 13. I like the speed and hands free felt great but the rudder takes a long time to start turning and to straighten you back. If the yak needs a lot of room to turn is not a big deal for me (the sea is big) ; however because the response of the rudder is very delayed, I end up overturning because after I straighten the rudder, the yak keeps turning.
Also I found that the Slayer 13 kind of tracks reasonably good when I take it a bit easy, (cruising speed) but when I try to padle fast for a short sprint the yak starts turning and not tracking straight.
As I am a newby I started thinking in a patern ( is it me that I am doing the wrong thing, or the yak tracks bad and I need to be constantly vigilant on the rudder adjusting about every 7 SECONDS, and still the yak zig zags a little bit.)
I am 6ft tall and 85kg.
Any recommendations on very good offshore capable yaks that can at the same time be very good inshore, in estuaries, in bays, lakes and big rivers?
I would also like the option to fit a small petrol outboard if I feel the need. Considering something like this 1. Link : http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/222342337760 ... EBIDX%3AIT
I would very much like to stick with a pedal system like hobie or native propel, much rather than a traditional paddle, IF THAT IS AT ALL POSSIBLE; however any thoughts and recommendations about yaks and even paddle vs pedal ( for an offshore scenario ) are very appreciated.
These are the yaks I am considering:
Native Slayer Propel 13; I am not too keen on this 1 as I tried it and mentioned the issues previously; the main reason it is good is the price and I can car top it. I dont much like the design and the use of the space provided either. However I can still manage to carry everything on it as I wish. here is a link to the yak : http://nativewatercraft.com/product/slayer-propel-13/
Native Titan Propel 13.5; I DID NOT TRY THIS YAK however watched many video clips. It seems to be capable of turning on a dime. what I saw on vidoes seems that the rudder is very responsive on this yak, kind of engages and changes direction quickly. I think it might track better and if it starts straying off course hopefully the responsive rudder will correct easily. More room on this boat. Easier to fit an outboard up to 2.5 HP. Cons it costs more and I need a trailer because it is too heavy.
But I am happy to deal with the cons if it is a better Yak. Link here : http://nativewatercraft.com/product/titan-propel-13-5/
Another link about the Titan here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXarWgNNdcY
The last option is: Kings Kraft Angler 13: i DID NOT TRY THIS YAK. I could not find any videos from people who bought 1 of these. Only videos where promotion videos and unreliable as they are biased and lacking info.
Size and design seem right but everything else is a guess. Might be a gem or a lemon. I like the front hatch, and the price. They say it cruises at 8 km/hr. I don't know how it tracks in a straight line or not.
Link here: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion- ... 1127295686
Another link about Angler 13 here: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion- ... 1132971970
One more link about Angler 13 here : https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion- ... 1136475846
Thank you very much guys for making time to read this.
Any info, opinions, recommendations and advise will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
I have only paddled a canoe for an hour and recently tried a Pedal Kayak (Native Slayer Propel 13)
I need advise on what yak would be best for me to buy.
I would like something that I can use across all; or most of the fishing spectrum / disciplines.
If possible I am planning to fish about 10% offshore for big game ; 60% coastal around Warrnambool less than 2km from land ; 25% inland lakes for trout / redfin (No very skinny waters just lakes and reasonably wide rivers) ; if it is at all possible to cover these 3 different scenarios with the same yak.
My main concern is the offshore part of it; I am not sure if the kayak/s I am considering are considered good for offshore big game by people who have experience.
Recently I tried a Native Slayer propel 13. I like the speed and hands free felt great but the rudder takes a long time to start turning and to straighten you back. If the yak needs a lot of room to turn is not a big deal for me (the sea is big) ; however because the response of the rudder is very delayed, I end up overturning because after I straighten the rudder, the yak keeps turning.
Also I found that the Slayer 13 kind of tracks reasonably good when I take it a bit easy, (cruising speed) but when I try to padle fast for a short sprint the yak starts turning and not tracking straight.
As I am a newby I started thinking in a patern ( is it me that I am doing the wrong thing, or the yak tracks bad and I need to be constantly vigilant on the rudder adjusting about every 7 SECONDS, and still the yak zig zags a little bit.)
I am 6ft tall and 85kg.
Any recommendations on very good offshore capable yaks that can at the same time be very good inshore, in estuaries, in bays, lakes and big rivers?
I would also like the option to fit a small petrol outboard if I feel the need. Considering something like this 1. Link : http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/222342337760 ... EBIDX%3AIT
I would very much like to stick with a pedal system like hobie or native propel, much rather than a traditional paddle, IF THAT IS AT ALL POSSIBLE; however any thoughts and recommendations about yaks and even paddle vs pedal ( for an offshore scenario ) are very appreciated.
These are the yaks I am considering:
Native Slayer Propel 13; I am not too keen on this 1 as I tried it and mentioned the issues previously; the main reason it is good is the price and I can car top it. I dont much like the design and the use of the space provided either. However I can still manage to carry everything on it as I wish. here is a link to the yak : http://nativewatercraft.com/product/slayer-propel-13/
Native Titan Propel 13.5; I DID NOT TRY THIS YAK however watched many video clips. It seems to be capable of turning on a dime. what I saw on vidoes seems that the rudder is very responsive on this yak, kind of engages and changes direction quickly. I think it might track better and if it starts straying off course hopefully the responsive rudder will correct easily. More room on this boat. Easier to fit an outboard up to 2.5 HP. Cons it costs more and I need a trailer because it is too heavy.
But I am happy to deal with the cons if it is a better Yak. Link here : http://nativewatercraft.com/product/titan-propel-13-5/
Another link about the Titan here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXarWgNNdcY
The last option is: Kings Kraft Angler 13: i DID NOT TRY THIS YAK. I could not find any videos from people who bought 1 of these. Only videos where promotion videos and unreliable as they are biased and lacking info.
Size and design seem right but everything else is a guess. Might be a gem or a lemon. I like the front hatch, and the price. They say it cruises at 8 km/hr. I don't know how it tracks in a straight line or not.
Link here: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion- ... 1127295686
Another link about Angler 13 here: https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion- ... 1132971970
One more link about Angler 13 here : https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/albion- ... 1136475846
Thank you very much guys for making time to read this.
Any info, opinions, recommendations and advise will be greatly appreciated.
Cheers