Try wearing a nappy instead of under daks

Inside out of coarse

Hvalross wrote:Try wearing a nappy instead of under daks

Inside out of coarse

I actually wear thermals and a pair of neoprene paddle shorts as well as the dry pants, extra padding, warmth, and stops any dampness being annoying. Gave up keeping my normal pants on as they often got damp and I like to have something guaranteed to still be warm and dry to put on when I get back, especially in winter. Can't hack being cold and damp when packing up.

laneends wrote: a pair of neoprene paddle shorts as well as the dry pants, extra padding, warmth, and stops any dampness being annoying..

Neoprene shorts or lycra straight onto the skin are a must when pedalling big distances. Even more important in warm water and multi day trips like SWR. If you have wet cotton against the skin you will soon develop jock rash/baboon arse. Lycra etc gives more protection. Another precaution is to use a little silicon cream around the crotch before a big trip.

Hi Keith, a very good choice of clothing on a cold day. I was wearing he same combination at Lang Lang today, and was perfectly warm; Surfing rash vest, full length thermals top and bottom, thin neoprene top and shorts, Lovig dry pants and a spray jacket. Oh and a skiing neck warmer and beanie. Bloody cold hands but!

Stimbled onto the combination Shane uses and found it to be the best. Also have not experienced condensation issues inside dry pants myself, so that may be another plus for the lycra basec layer.
I'm a bit fussy about getting as much air out of the Kokatat pants as possible and ensure skin contact for the rubber waist band.

cheaterparts wrote:

Yakass wrote:Yep, the original Lovig pants have an unsealed seam where the neoprene meets the fabric, which was usually responsible for leakage in that area and yep, the wetter ride models were more likely to expose that.

now that doesn't surprise me - my lovig pants have always left me with a wet arse right from new

Yep, in a hull with seat wells like those found on Stealths, that seam on the original pants is likely to be exposed. You could probably address that with McNetts seam sealer. Mind you, you're likely to get a wet backside in a yak like that anyway, because even if there is no leakage you will perspire in that area because the fabric can't breath, mainly because you're sitting on it, and also partly because the seat of the pants will 'wet out'. In any case, as I mentioned earlier, the newer ones are definitely an improvement.

If you are pedaling distances then some kind of jock support is important, if you go straight neoprene paddle shorts or wet suit you will have some well massaged nuts..not pleasant.

laneends wrote:If you are pedaling distances then some kind of jock support is important, if you go straight neoprene paddle shorts or wet suit you will have some well massaged nuts..not pleasant.

away from kayaking, I've recently discovered Aussiebum undies offer this! Next time I'm out I'll be trying a pair out as I've discovered this issue

shane wrote:. If you have wet cotton against the skin you will soon develop jock rash/baboon arse. .

Noticed Aldis were recently selling marino jocks, not cheap but considered trying them.

Cant be too toastie on these cold damp days.

laneends wrote:If you are pedaling distances then some kind of jock support is important, if you go straight neoprene paddle shorts or wet suit you will have some well massaged nuts..not pleasant.

My current preference is cycling lycra shorts that are firm enough in the crotch to provide plenty of support but also come with some extra padding for the seat.