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Re: thoughts on the Stealth Profisha 525

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FishnDive wrote:
laneends wrote:Is the reduced bouyancy in the nose to help it cut through waves rather than bobbing over them?

I think thats the theory with the AI and revo 16
Yeah it's also a side effect that it is designed for speed over stability whereas the Fisha is the other way around. That's not to say the Profisha is unstable or that the Fisha isn't fast, it's just the order of priorities for the designers.
I noticed with the revo 16 you can trim it forward or back by adjusting rake of seat, weight forward or back. Backwards brings the nose up and good to reduce nose diving in following sea. But it tends to bounce and "bob" heading into chop. Whereas less reclined trims it nose down so that it is faster on the flat and more stable into chop by cutting through rather than bobbing over.

Surprising what a little change in trim/bouyancy can do to a yaks handling, and at speed in a skinny yak keeping straight and not squirreling around is important. Sounds like Stealth have put some thought into this. I reckon you might be selling a few of these soon :thumbsup:
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Re: thoughts on the Stealth Profisha 525

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GoneFishn wrote:I think I need to get off my arse and organise this test paddle with you Eoin, but this could also be a dangerous move for the bank balance too.
Always better to ask forgivness than permission Kelly. Give me a shout when you are free and we can go for a paddle. :thumbsup:


laneends wrote: I noticed with the revo 16 you can trim it forward or back by adjusting rake of seat, weight forward or back. Backwards brings the nose up and good to reduce nose diving in following sea. But it tends to bounce and "bob" heading into chop. Whereas less reclined trims it nose down so that it is faster on the flat and more stable into chop by cutting through rather than bobbing over. Surprising what a little change in trim/bouyancy can do to a yaks handling, and at speed in a skinny yak keeping straight and not squirreling around is important. Sounds like Stealth have put some thought into this. I reckon you might be selling a few of these soon :thumbsup:
In the skis your natural position is leaning slightly forward and while there are no adjustable vantage seats, but you can adjust your own body weight quite easily. The weight of the yaks can't come down much more so I'll have to look at losing a few kegs off the paddler now. :lol:
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Re: thoughts on the Stealth Profisha 525

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FishnDive wrote:[. The weight of the yaks can't come down much more so I'll have to look at losing a few kegs off the paddler now. :lol:
More paddling will help you with that one :thumbsup:
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cheaterparts wrote:Well I slide down to Altona and caught up with the Sea Sherpa man at Millers Rd this arvo for a little road test of his new sports car of the kayak fishing world a Stealth Profisha 525
Chenski also came down for a paddle

Basically Eoin has the go head to get one in for me - we just have to see what colours are in stock at kayak specialists in QLD
Sounds like you will need to modify your tralier !
Look forward to seeing you & your new yak on the water.
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Just wondering how the glass compares to a Viking preload or Jackson Kraken 15.5, and how fishabilty [amount of gear and comfort] relates to said.
Would 23kms out from Portland be an easy trip :evilgrin:
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westy wrote:Just wondering how the glass compares to a Viking preload or Jackson Kraken 15.5, and how fishabilty [amount of gear and comfort] relates to said.
Would 23kms out from Portland be an easy trip :evilgrin:
here my take on it - the glass would be faster and lighter than a Viking or the jackson - as for 23 km out from Portland I doubt any human powered vessel is easy however some thing thats easier to paddle would make the task easier

as for fishablilty there is good storage when you look at the size on the fish hatch that can take 4 rigged rods sealed in for surf launchs - I still think my prowler or ether the viking or jackson would be nicer sitting at anchor - but as an off shore weapon the stealth is worth a look
Jacko wrote: Sounds like you will need to modify your tralier !
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Skinny yaks are better for efficiently going from A to B, when you are paying attention to the elements and have momentum up, but the primary stability of the wider plastic yaks is a big plus when anchored or drifting, as Cheater points out, when side to side rocking comes into play and you are distracted rigging, reaching for stuff around rhe back, reaching for rods, fighting fish etc. or my worst bitch trying to untangle lines/lures around rear of yak

This is why fishos have more need for primary stability than touring kayakers. Its a matter of finding the right compromise you are happy with
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Re: thoughts on the Stealth Profisha 525

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westy wrote:Just wondering how the glass compares to a Viking preload or Jackson Kraken 15.5, and how fishabilty [amount of gear and comfort] relates to said.
Would 23kms out from Portland be an easy trip :evilgrin:
Profisha 525 ~23kg

Viking Reload ~32kg

Kraken ~38kg

Lighter guys (Cheater ;) ) are going to be impacted by the inertia of a heavier kayak to a greater extent than bigger heavier guys so your power to weight ratio is going to influence the performance of a kayak as much as a few kgs in hull weight.

When my Reload is fully rigged for a day's fishing I'm carrying:

Tackle Pod ~ 8-9 kgs

Chill Pod ~15kgs (includes 10kg of ice slurry)... on a good day add 7-12kgs of fish :D

Rods, Anchor and other bits and pieces ~ 5kg / 7kg if I'm using the Finnor Off Shores

So the stuff I carry on the kayak can weigh more than the hull.

Fully loaded I average 6.5 kph with a bit of wind and chop, at Portland on the glassed out day we had I was up around 7 kph, chasing down birds I got up to between 7.7-8.5kph but that was a lot of extra energy for a marginal difference in speed (I got excited :lol:)

My body weight is 89kgs so my BMI is 25 although my waist is 33in/84cm

I have no doubt the Profisha is faster, so maybe Eoin can give you a rough idea of how it compares.
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Re: thoughts on the Stealth Profisha 525

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laneends wrote:Skinny yaks are better for efficiently going from A to B, when you are paying attention to the elements and have momentum up, but the primary stability of the wider plastic yaks is a big plus when anchored or drifting, as Cheater points out, when side to side rocking comes into play and you are distracted rigging, reaching for stuff around rhe back, reaching for rods, fighting fish etc. or my worst bitch trying to untangle lines/lures around rear of yak

This is why fishos have more need for primary stability than touring kayakers. Its a matter of finding the right compromise you are happy with
for a narrow fishing kayak there the primary didn't seam to bad but they do have a low seat height - I dont think reaching for rods from behind will be a problem and I did try sitting side saddle - which again was quite doable
and in the next breath these narrow kayaks may no be the thing to send a new guy out on and will be interesting on a surf day ( a wet ride on the way out for sure )

load carry rating is good to in fact the 525 has the greatest load carry of all the profisha with 195 Kg which is about the same as the reload or my prowler
Smish wrote:Fully loaded I average 6.5 kph with a bit of wind and chop, at Portland on the glassed out day we had I was up around 7 kph, chasing down birds I got up to between 7.7-8.5kph but that was a lot of extra energy for a marginal difference in speed (I got excited :lol:)

My body weight is 89kgs so my BMI is 25 although my waist is 33in/84cm

I have no doubt the Profisha is faster, so maybe Eoin can give you a rough idea of how it compares.
your reload and my prowler are fairly close on performance and weight - we were slack not to have taken a GPS with up but the 525 felt lighter , quicker and easier to paddle than the fisha 500 which also is no slouch
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Smish wrote: When my Reload is fully rigged for a day's fishing I'm carrying:

Tackle Pod ~ 8-9 kgs

Chill Pod ~15kgs (includes 10kg of ice slurry)... on a good day add 7-12kgs of fish :D

Rods, Anchor and other bits and pieces ~ 5kg / 7kg if I'm using the Finnor Off Shores

So the stuff I carry on the kayak can weigh more than the hull.

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Out of interest have many of you actually weighed everything you typically carry excluding yourself and actual yak?

Been meaning to do this out of interest.
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