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Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 11:24
by laneends
The ideal of course the ideal is fishing with a mate, then they can cut the rope on your anchor and drag your kayak back to you so you can remount. But then that seriously restricts your trips for most people

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 13:21
by maverick
laneends wrote:The ideal of course is fishing with a mate, then they can cut the rope on your anchor and drag your kayak back to you so you can remount. But then that seriously restricts your trips for most people
One of the reasons Winga made the video was that we were discussing the the young bloke who drowned at Somers, he was fishing with a mate and still drowned. Obviously a PFD would have saved him, but even so, his mate was fully aware that he fell in, but still couldn't rescue him.

I think we need to make sure we are self reliant, but fishing with a mate is more fun. I just wish I had mates. :roll:

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 17:56
by Joshua
His mate was already on the shore when he fell in, so he was no more help than any other bystander. With the weather the way it was there was no way he was going back out.

I'f I'm anchoring in WP I'm with a friend.

Gummies and snapper aren't even worth the swim to shore let alone your life.

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 18:21
by laneends
maverick wrote:
laneends wrote:The ideal of course the ideal is fishing with a mate, then they can cut the rope on your anchor and drag your kayak back to you so you can remount. But then that seriously restricts your trips for most people
One of the reasons Winga made the video was that we were discussing the the young bloke who drowned at Somers, he was fishing with a mate and still drowned. Obviously a PFD would have saved him, but even so, his mate was fully aware that he fell in, but still couldn't rescue him.

I think we need to make sure we are self reliant, but fishing with a mate is more fun. I just wish I had mates. :roll:
I am certainly rethinking the tethering option in tide flow at anchor as its the only alternative to having someone who can go retrieve your kayak for you. Regardless of having all the other gear, remount ability, and calm conditions, you are in a heap of trouble, especially in winter, if you fall in.

For the gippsland paddle challenge for sit on top kayaks having a leash is an entry requirement

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 18:33
by cheaterparts
maverick wrote:
laneends wrote:The ideal of course the ideal is fishing with a mate, then they can cut the rope on your anchor and drag your kayak back to you so you can remount. But then that seriously restricts your trips for most people
One of the reasons Winga made the video was that we were discussing the the young bloke who drowned at Somers, he was fishing with a mate and still drowned. Obviously a PFD would have saved him, but even so, his mate was fully aware that he fell in, but still couldn't rescue him.

I think we need to make sure we are self reliant, but fishing with a mate is more fun. I just wish I had mates. :roll:
this leads to another question - who has done an assisted re entry or practiced it - we all know and have practiced how to re mount our kayaks ( or should have ) but how many have had to help some one else back on or practiced how they would go about it

the reason I ask is I may one day need help back on and wont to know who I should fish with :lol: - I have to help 2 back on there kayaks one that couldn't get back on and Lee Jo who probably could but had a set of dry pants full of water after a bit of a swim waiting for me to go get his kayak out in the Clealand Bight surf so it was easier to assist him back on than him spend a lot of energy getting back on carrying a sh!t load of water with him

the easiest way I have found to do this is to park on the other side of the kayak than the kayaker you are helping grab there hand and drag them up on there kayak
even if they are pulled up a bit to far your kayak is being used as a raft with this extra help both cases they were able to plant there bum in the seat fairly easy
something worth practising

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 20:15
by Gunna
Having a kayak stirrup for many kayaks would help even if placed at the rear.

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 28 Apr 2019, 20:39
by laneends
Gunna wrote:Having a kayak stirrup for many kayaks would help even if placed at the rear.
Problem with aids is that you can become depedant on them. Then one day they are not there, cant be accessed or tangled in some way and you are not proficient in doing it unaided

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 06:12
by peatop
laneends wrote:
Gunna wrote:Having a kayak stirrup for many kayaks would help even if placed at the rear.
Problem with aids is that you can become depedant on them. Then one day they are not there, cant be accessed or tangled in some way and you are not proficient in doing it unaided
I mentioned this the other day mainly for the PA , however it would/could be useful for any kayak, as you say though Keith don't become complacent you should practice re entry using all possible combinations as choosing just one could leave you stranded :o

Interesting that a tether is a requirement for sot in the gippy challenge.

Thanks for your answer Shane, would it be an idea to put another ss clip on the PFD end for a possible quick release if needed?

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 08:05
by cheaterparts
peatop wrote:
Interesting that a tether is a requirement for sot in the gippy challenge.
it is a surf life saving club running the event - might have something to do with it

I dont need one this year as I'm in a sea kayak it's only sit on tops/skis that need the leg rope

Re: What if you fish WPB and fall out?

Posted: 29 Apr 2019, 08:21
by Reeling
cheaterparts wrote: this leads to another question - who has done an assisted re entry or practiced it - we all know and have practiced how to re mount our kayaks ( or should have ) but how many have had to help some one else back on or practiced how they would go about it

the reason I ask is I may one day need help back on and wont to know who I should fish with :lol: - I have to help 2 back on there kayaks one that couldn't get back on and Lee Jo who probably could but had a set of dry pants full of water after a bit of a swim waiting for me to go get his kayak out in the Clealand Bight surf so it was easier to assist him back on than him spend a lot of energy getting back on carrying a sh!t load of water with him

the easiest way I have found to do this is to park on the other side of the kayak than the kayaker you are helping grab there hand and drag them up on there kayak
even if they are pulled up a bit to far your kayak is being used as a raft with this extra help both cases they were able to plant there bum in the seat fairly easy
something worth practising
You should have just used your gaff :evilgrin: and seen how the humans liked it

#vegans4life :lol: