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Western re-entry practice

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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby peatop » 22 Jan 2018, 23:50

Im pretty much good for any day but need plenty of warning so i have fuel to get there ;)
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby Kamaukid » 07 Feb 2018, 12:43

I'm in, I've done the re entry a few times but haven't noticed how much water intake there is from the hatches.
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby Reeling » 07 Feb 2018, 13:48

I fell foul to a capsize during NSC '18 when I was coming off the water after it was cancelled due to bad weather. Fully kitted out for offshore and managed to stay composed, re-right and climb back on board and not lose any gear...just took a while to pull all my leashes in haha

You can never say no to more practice though.
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby cheaterparts » 07 Feb 2018, 17:30

Reeling wrote:I fell foul to a capsize during NSC '18 when I was coming off the water after it was cancelled due to bad weather.


the water was a little confused out there -- what caught you out and how would do it different next time you are in the same conditions to save taking the unplaned dip
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby Reeling » 07 Feb 2018, 19:43

cheaterparts wrote:
Reeling wrote:I fell foul to a capsize during NSC '18 when I was coming off the water after it was cancelled due to bad weather.


the water was a little confused out there -- what caught you out and how would do it different next time you are in the same conditions to save taking the unplaned dip


Great question... I was heading towards the shore with the following sea.... Someone asked over the radio whether we were allowed to carry on fishing on out way in yo which the answer was along the lines of "yes, but don't take the piss"

Well I had one rod out trolling and thought to myself, "wind it in and just concentrate on getting back safely". So I leaned forward and started winding in with the rod in the holder. As I was winding in, the yak had turned slightly and without watching the waves behind me got flipped out on the side I was winding the rod in.

What would I do next time.... Either lift the rod out and wind in so I'm not leaning off center or even turn towards the waves and then wind in.
Either way I would probably take the rod out of the holder and always keep an eye on the waves!
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby cactus » 07 Feb 2018, 19:56

I didn't want to touch my rods when in the following sea that day, I only touched them when I could see what was coming and sometimes straddled the Yak to change rigs etc. Revo's feel rubbish in a following sea, I know your feeling.
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby spider25160 » 07 Feb 2018, 22:39

cactus wrote:I didn't want to touch my rods when in the following sea that day, I only touched them when I could see what was coming and sometimes straddled the Yak to change rigs etc. Revo's feel rubbish in a following sea, I know your feeling.

I have never been terribly comfortable in a following sea and the PA14 is not the quickest boat to respond to the rudder so I towed a drogue all the way in. Managed a measurable pinkie at the same time. The trip was slow but at no time did I feel at all uncomfortable in some pretty ordinary seas.
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby peatop » 07 Feb 2018, 23:10

spider25160 wrote:
cactus wrote:I didn't want to touch my rods when in the following sea that day, I only touched them when I could see what was coming and sometimes straddled the Yak to change rigs etc. Revo's feel rubbish in a following sea, I know your feeling.

I have never been terribly comfortable in a following sea and the PA14 is not the quickest boat to respond to the rudder so I towed a drogue all the way in. Managed a measurable pinkie at the same time. The trip was slow but at no time did I feel at all uncomfortable in some pretty ordinary seas.

Does the drift chute help to keep the yak straight (as this is what i imagine )? However could it also cause unwanted issues?
When i come in to beach i always pull my rudder up well before and use my paddle to steer as it gives me way more control over that of the rudder. Mind you my lack of experience doesn't help any, but so far i haven't flipped unintentionally ;) touch wood.
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby cheaterparts » 08 Feb 2018, 06:18

it's a bit of a common theme hobies and following seas - high primary stability , not having a paddle in hand to brace with and a hull that turns side on to a wave quickly is less fun than you need with a following sea

peatop wrote:Does the drift chute help to keep the yak straight (as this is what i imagine )? However could it also cause unwanted issues?
When i come in to beach i always pull my rudder up well before and use my paddle to steer as it gives me way more control over that of the rudder. Mind you my lack of experience doesn't help any, but so far i haven't flipped unintentionally ;) touch wood.


Pete on a paddle yak your rudder is not really to steer it's to hold a heading while paddling , so lifting it is not a problem at any time
not only does your paddle steer better than a rudder it is also a very good outrigger when used as a brace ( something worth practising )



or



it's surprising how much weight you can put on a paddle while moving - when moving along in shitty conditions just using the back of the blade on the water for support works really well but it has to come as second nature - the better you get at bracing the more comfortable you become in these bad conditions
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Re: Western re-entry practice

Postby Reeling » 08 Feb 2018, 08:08

ye, this is what I was planning on doing Cheater :shifty:

I just didnt get past step one of bringing my line in and getting my paddle out haha.

Whenever I come in withe a rough than average following sea, I also get my paddle out and have it on hand for balance.

I think I'd be better off practicing these brace skills with the bonus of re-entries when things don't quite go to plan :)
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