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just wondering

Postby cheaterparts » 24 Nov 2016, 13:56

if you put a motor on a kayak it becomes a power boat and the regs + safety gear must be up to power boat spec

if you put a sail on a kayak that would include AIs and TIs do you need to upgrade to Yacht safety gear specs

just a thought
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Re: just wondering

Postby bunyip » 24 Nov 2016, 14:59

Depends on who you rub the wrong way when on the water.
There are also specifics like size and waters you are sailing in.
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Re: just wondering

Postby maverick » 24 Nov 2016, 15:10

Seems to be the same as kayaks, if you look at Off-The-Beach yachts.
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Re: just wondering

Postby cheaterparts » 24 Nov 2016, 16:05

maverick wrote:Seems to be the same as kayaks, if you look at Off-The-Beach yachts.


Just adding to that Mav is there any distances off the beach sailers have as restrictions ie off shore or night oops

It was just a thought with more guys running off shore it may be different to the off the beach rules
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Re: just wondering

Postby maverick » 24 Nov 2016, 16:07

cheaterparts wrote:
maverick wrote:Seems to be the same as kayaks, if you look at Off-The-Beach yachts.


Just adding to that Mav is there any distances off the beach sailers have as restrictions ie off shore or night oops

It was just a thought with more guys running off shore it may be different to the off the beach rules


More then 2 nm offshore looks like you need the same as a kayak does offshore. Pretty sure it is a white light as well for night.
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Re: just wondering

Postby cheaterparts » 24 Nov 2016, 16:45

maverick wrote:
cheaterparts wrote:
maverick wrote:Seems to be the same as kayaks, if you look at Off-The-Beach yachts.


Just adding to that Mav is there any distances off the beach sailers have as restrictions ie off shore or night oops

It was just a thought with more guys running off shore it may be different to the off the beach rules


More then 2 nm offshore looks like you need the same as a kayak does offshore. Pretty sure it is a white light as well for night.


just found this Mav http://transportsafety.vic.gov.au/marit ... -equipment
off the beach sailers is at the bottom of the list

it seams for off the beach more than 2 nm off shore main differences are you must carrry a marine radio not a requirement for a kayak but we still do

and PFD type 1 and a red star parachute rocket are the only differences to kayak safety equipment

inside 2 nm and the bays basicly the same as kayak regs
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Re: just wondering

Postby maverick » 24 Nov 2016, 19:25

My argument would be that the AI & TI are kayaks with sails, not yachts. We have 3 forms of propulsion, a sail, pedals and paddle, and yachts only have 1. So it seems more prudent for them to carry more safety gear. So I will stick with the kayak regs for now. IMHO
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